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The Heroic Enthusiasts, Part II (Gli Eroici Furori) · 35 of 49 · tr. L. Williams

Third Dialogueg

The eyes, when they move (the heart), are dry, because they perform the office of a looking-glass, and of a representer; when they are moved, however, they become troubled and perturbed, because they perform the office of a diligent executer, seeing that with the speculating intellect, the beautiful and the good is first seen, then the will desires it; and later the industrious intellect procures it, follows it, and seeks it. Tearful eyes signify the difficulty of separating the thing wished for from, the wisher, the which in order that it should not pall, nor disgust, presents itself as an infinite longing (studio) which ever has, and ever seeks; seeing that the delight of the gods is ascribed to drinking, not to having tasted ambrosia, and to the continual enjoyment of food and drink, and not in being satiated and without desire for them. Hence they have satiety as it were in movement and apprehension, not in quiet and comprehension; they are not satiated without appetite, nor are they in a state of desire, without being in a certain way satiated. [AA] "Deity is an arcane, living (or moving) FIRE, and the eternal witnesses to this unseen Presence are Light, Heat, Moisture," this trinity including, and being the cause of every phenomenon in Nature.—("The Secret Doctrine.") Lao. Esuries satiata, satietas esuriens. Lib. Precisely so. Lao: From this I can comprehend how, without blame, but with great truth and understanding, it has been said that Divine love weeps with indescribable groans, because having all it loves all, and loving all has all. Lib. But many comments would be necessary if we would understand that Divine love which is deity itself; and one easily understands Divine love, so far as it is to be found in its effects and in the inferior nature. I do not say that which from the divinity is diffused into things, but that of things which aspires to the divinity. Lao. Now of this and of other matters we will discourse more at our ease presently. Let us go.
Themes
Anthropomorphismtheology

Attributing human characteristics, emotions, or form to the divine; embodied divine imagery.

Divine love is described as weeping with indescribable groans, attributing human emotion to the divine.

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Divine Hiddennesstheology

The supreme God's radical concealment beyond ordinary knowledge or perception; the Hidden Father.

Deity is described as an 'arcane' and 'unseen Presence' witnessed only by Light, Heat, and Moisture.

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Divine Intoxicationpraxis

Ecstatic, non-rational receptivity to the divine figured as drunkenness — Plato's symposium wine, Rumi's sukr, Eckhart's 'sober drunkenness'; the passive/receptive metaphor for divine encounter, distinct from divine_madness's active possessing rapture.

The delight of the gods is ascribed to drinking and continual enjoyment rather than satiation.

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Divine Lighttheology

The uncreated luminous quality of the divine, sometimes experienced directly in mystical states; illumination as revelation.

Light is listed as one of the eternal witnesses to the unseen Presence of Deity.

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Gnosis Direct Knowledgesoteriology

Salvation through direct experiential knowledge of the divine nature, not through faith, ritual, or moral works alone.

The beautiful and good is first seen by the speculating intellect before being desired.

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Hidden Sayingssoteriology

Esoteric teachings reserved for those ready to receive them; outer meaning conceals an inner liberating truth.

Deity is described as 'arcane', implying esoteric knowledge reserved for the initiated.

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Opposites Transcendedanthropology

The dissolution of binary oppositions (male/female, inner/outer, above/below) as a mark of spiritual completion.

The passage resolves the opposition between satiety and hunger through the paradox of 'satiated hunger'.

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Return To Sourcesoteriology

The soul's journey back to its divine origin, reversing the fall into matter through stages of purification or illumination.

The passage describes 'things which aspires to the divinity' rather than just divinity diffusing into things.

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Ritual Firepraxis

Fire as medium of divine presence.

Deity is characterized as a living FIRE, serving as a medium of divine presence.

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Separation From Sourcesoteriology

The felt condition of exile from one's divine origin — Rumi's reed flute torn from its bed, Plotinus's 'we have forgotten,' the Gnostic forgetfulness; the affective wound that complements return_to_source and gives the return its motive.

Tearful eyes signify the difficulty of separating the thing wished for from the wisher.

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Spiritual Ascentpraxis

A staged journey of the soul upward through heavenly realms or levels of being toward the divine source.

The movement from seeing to desiring to procuring represents a journey upward toward the divine.

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Theosis Deificationsoteriology

The doctrine — central to Eastern Orthodox and Maximian theology — that the human person is progressively transformed into a partaker of the divine nature by grace, not merely justified or united in passing ecstasy.

The aspiration of things to divinity implies a transformation or participation in the divine nature.

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Tripartite Soulanthropology

Division of the human being into three principles: spirit (pneuma), soul (psyche), and body/matter (hyle or soma).

The text distinguishes between the speculating intellect, will, and industrious intellect.

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Unity Of Beingtheology

The doctrine that all existence is ultimately one substance or one divine reality; non-duality as a theological claim.

The text states 'Divine love which is deity itself', suggesting an identity between the attribute and the essence.

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Active Contemplationpraxis

A form of meditation that uses imagery, imagination, or symbolic thought rather than purely empty stillness.

[auto] The text describes the 'industrious intellect' procuring, following, and seeking the beautiful and good.

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Divine Madnesssoteriology

Ecstatic irrational rapture — Plato's mania, Bruno's furore — by which the soul transcends ordinary reason and attains direct contact with divine reality; madness reframed as higher knowledge.

[auto] The description of perturbed eyes and divine love weeping with groans aligns with the concept of ecstatic rapture transcending ordinary reason.

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Heroic Furorpraxis

Bruno's eroici furori — a passionate, ennobling spiritual ardor that drives the soul toward divine wisdom; distinguished from base or animal passions by its orientation to infinite truth.

[auto] The passage is from Bruno's work defining this concept, describing perturbed eyes, infinite longing, and divine love's groans as ennobling spiritual ardor.

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Ladder Of Lovesoteriology

Diotima's staged ascent from love of beautiful bodies → beautiful souls → beautiful pursuits → beautiful knowledge → Beauty itself; the canonical scala amoris that grounds Plotinus's On the Beautiful and Bruno's Eroici Furori — distinct from generic spiritual_ascent in that eros is the specific motive force.

[auto] The text outlines the progression from seeing the beautiful/good to desiring it and then procuring it, mirroring the scala amoris.

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Living Godtheology

The divine conceived as active, present, and dynamic—not an abstract principle but a personal responsive reality.

[auto] The text explicitly defines Deity as an 'arcane, living (or moving) FIRE' rather than an abstract principle.

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Mystical Unionsoteriology

The merging of the individual soul or self with the divine, transcending personal identity.

[auto] The passage discusses the difficulty of separating the thing wished for from the wisher, implying a state of unity.

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Paradox As Teachingethics

Using apparent contradiction, reversal, or riddle to destabilise ordinary understanding and induce insight.

[auto] The text centers on the paradoxical Latin phrase 'Esuries satiata, satietas esuriens' and the coexistence of satiety and desire.

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Related passages · 8 parallels
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Both passages explore the relationship between the soul or divine love and the act of perception or desire. They discuss the tension between the higher intellectual or divine sphere and the lower, sensory or worldly sphere, highlighting the difficulty and longing inherent in this relationship.
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Both passages explore the nature of divine love and its relationship with humanity, emphasizing the infinite and inscrutable aspects of love. They both suggest that love is a cosmic phenomenon that transcends human understanding and control, though they come from different mystical traditions.