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The Heroic Enthusiasts, Part I (Gli Eroici Furori) · 55 of 63 · tr. L. Williams

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That is a maxim of the Epicureans which, being well understood, would not be considered so unworthy as the ignorant hold it to be, seeing that it does not detract from what I have called virtue, nor does it impair the perfection of firmness, but it rather adds to that perfection as it is understood by the vulgar, for Epicurus does not hold that, a true and complete strength and firmness which feels and bears inconveniences, but that which bears them and feels them not. He does not consider him perfect in divine heroic love, who feels the spur, the check, or remorse or trouble about other love; but him who has no feeling of other affections; so that being fixed in one pleasure, there is no displeasure that has any power to jostle him or dislodge him from his place. And this it is to touch the highest blessedness of this state, to have rapture and no sense of pain. Cic. The ignorant do not believe in this meaning of Epicurus. Tans. Because they neither read his own books, nor those that report his maxims without invidiousness, but there are those who read the course of his life and the conditions of his death, where with these words he dictated the beginning of his testament: "Being in the last, and at the same time, the happiest day of our life, we have ordained this with a healthy, tranquil mind at rest; for whatever acute sorrow may torment us from one side, that torment is entirely annulled by the pleasure of our own inventions and the consideration of our end." And it is manifest that he no longer felt more pleasure than sorrow in eating, drinking, repose, and in generating, but in not feeling hunger, nor thirst, nor fatigue, nor sensuality. From this may be understood what is according to us the perfection of firmness; not in this, that the tree neither bends nor breaks, nor is rent, but in that it does not so much as stir, and its prototype keeps spirit, sense, and intellect, fixed there, where the shock of the tempest is not felt. Cic. Do you then think it is a thing to be desired, to bear shocks in order to prove that you are strong? Tans. You say "to bear;" and this is a part of firmness, but it is not the whole of that virtue, which consists in bearing strongly, as I say, or in not feeling, as Epicurus said. Now this loss of feeling is caused by being entirely absorbed in the cultivation of virtue, or of real good and felicity, in such wise that Regulus did not feel the chest, Lucretia the dagger, Socrates the poison, Anaxagoras the mortar, Scævola the fire, Cocles the abyss, and other worthies felt not those things which would torment and fill with terror the vulgar crowd. Cic. Now pass on. X. Tans. Look at this other who bears the device of an anvil and a hammer, round which is the legend "ab Aetna!" But here Vulcan is introduced: 34. Not now to my Sicilian mount I turn, Where thou dost forge the thunderbolts of Jove, Here, rugged Vulcan will I stay; Here, where a prouder giant moves, Who burns and rages against Heaven in vain, Soliciting new cares and divers trials. Here is a better smith and Mongibello[A] A better anvil, better forge and hammer; For here behold a bosom full of sighs, Which blows the furnace and the fire revives. The soul nor yields nor bends to these rough blows, But bears exulting this long martyrdom, And makes a harmony from these sharp pangs. [A] Mount Etna.
Themes
Active Contemplationpraxis

A form of meditation that uses imagery, imagination, or symbolic thought rather than purely empty stillness.

[auto] The metaphor of Vulcan forging thunderbolts and the soul making 'harmony from these sharp pangs' illustrates active mental engagement with suffering.

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Body As Obstacleanthropology

The material body viewed as a prison, tomb, or source of error that hinders spiritual knowledge and return.

[auto] Perfection is achieved by 'not feeling hunger, nor thirst, nor fatigue', treating bodily sensations as impediments to the spiritual state.

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Divine Madnesssoteriology

Ecstatic irrational rapture — Plato's mania, Bruno's furore — by which the soul transcends ordinary reason and attains direct contact with divine reality; madness reframed as higher knowledge.

[auto] The text describes 'rapture' and a state of 'firmness' that transcends ordinary feeling, aligning with the definition of ecstatic rapture or furore.

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Heroic Furorpraxis

Bruno's eroici furori — a passionate, ennobling spiritual ardor that drives the soul toward divine wisdom; distinguished from base or animal passions by its orientation to infinite truth.

[auto] The passage is from Bruno's Gli Eroici Furori and explicitly defines the state of the 'heroic enthusiast' who achieves perfection through divine fixation rather than stoic endurance.

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Hidden Sayingssoteriology

Esoteric teachings reserved for those ready to receive them; outer meaning conceals an inner liberating truth.

[auto] The passage argues that the true meaning of Epicurus is hidden from the ignorant who do not read his books or understand his maxims without invidiousness.

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Inner Silencepraxis

The practice of stilling the mind and speech to open receptivity to divine knowledge or presence.

[auto] The ideal state is described as a 'healthy, tranquil mind at rest' where the prototype 'does not so much as stir'.

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Mystical Unionsoteriology

The merging of the individual soul or self with the divine, transcending personal identity.

[auto] The enthusiast is described as 'fixed in one pleasure' where no displeasure can jostle him, indicating a state of absorption or union with the divine good.

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Opposites Transcendedanthropology

The dissolution of binary oppositions (male/female, inner/outer, above/below) as a mark of spiritual completion.

[auto] In the highest blessedness, the distinction between pleasure and pain is dissolved as the enthusiast feels 'rapture and no sense of pain'.

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Paradox As Teachingethics

Using apparent contradiction, reversal, or riddle to destabilise ordinary understanding and induce insight.

[auto] The text redefines strength not as bearing shocks but as not feeling them, and pleasure as the absence of pain rather than positive sensation.

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Pneumatic Electsoteriology

A spiritual elite who possess the divine spark and are predestined for salvation, contrasted with psychic (faithful) and hylic (material) persons.

[auto] The text contrasts the 'heroic' enthusiast who understands true virtue with the 'vulgar crowd' and 'ignorant' who misinterpret Epicurus.

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For in the case of other qualities, such as heat or cold, the things which have been warmed have their being even when they lose their warmth, and many of the creatures there are which have no life or mind; and in like manner God transcende…”
Both passages explore the relationship between good and evil, being and non-being, and the role of participation in a higher principle. Pseudo-Dionysius discusses the participation of all things in the Good, while the Fifth Dialogue discusses the Epicurean concept of pleasure and the absence of pain, both touching on the idea of perfection and the role of higher principles in human experience.
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Thus, ‘tis true to say that it is more in accordance with Divine Righteousness not to lull into its destruction the manliness of the noblest characters through bestowing material goods upon them, nor to leave them without the aid of Divine…”
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Therefore sanctification is the best of all things, for it cleanses the soul, and illuminates the conscience, and kindles the heart, and wakens the spirit, and girds up the loins, and glorifies virtue and separates us from creatures, and un…”
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13.) Man can attain real similarity to God and perfect beatitude only by decisively willing to put his will into the Son, as the Heart or Light of the Father. "God has the eternal and unchangeable will to generate His Heart and his Son, an…”
Both passages discuss the attainment of a state of perfection or beatitude through a form of detachment or absorption in higher principles. Passage A describes the Epicurean ideal of not feeling pain or inconvenience due to being absorbed in divine love, while Passage B discusses the soul's union with the divine will to achieve perfect happiness and divine power.
christian_mysticism|The Life and Doctrines of Jacob Boehme|Chapter 13 (part 11)
27.) No Christian should contemplate his own holiness, or fancy himself to be better than others; but he should rather realise his own unworthiness, and regret the perverted state of himself and of humanity as a whole. "No one should want…”
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greek_mystery|The Golden Verses of Pythagoras|Section 5 (part 2)
The mortal Oath--that used amongst men--has to be reverenced as an image of the other, and as leading to the greatest strength and stability of character. And if man would reverence the Oath, then must he do all in his power to understand…”
Both passages discuss the concept of achieving a state of perfection or strength through the cultivation of virtue and the transcendence of physical or emotional pain. They both emphasize the idea of being unperturbed by external circumstances through inner fortitude and divine connection.
greek_mystery|The Golden Verses of Pythagoras|Section 9 (part 2)
Or in the third place, it is impelled when it is not proper, and to objects to which it ought not to tend. 22. Endeavour not to conceal your errors p. 49 by words, but to remedy them by reproof. 23. It is not so difficult to err, as no…”
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neoplatonism|Select Works of Plotinus|Select Works, Section 21
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Both passages discuss the concept of virtue and its relationship to the divine or higher states of being. They explore the idea of transcending bodily passions and achieving a state of purity and likeness to the divine, though they come from different philosophical traditions.
neoplatonism|Select Works of Plotinus|Select Works, Section 22
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They are temperate because they are intemperate-which may seem to be a contradiction, but is nevertheless the sort of thing which happens with this foolish temperance. For there are pleasures which they must have, and are afraid of losing;…”
Both passages explore the concept of virtue and the role of pleasure and pain in achieving it. Plato's passage discusses the true nature of virtue as being accompanied by wisdom, while the Epicurean passage describes virtue as the absence of feeling pain or pleasure, focusing on a state of tranquility and absorption in real good and felicity.
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But, as I was saying at first, the truth as I imagine is, that whether such practices are honourable or whether they are dishonourable is not a simple question; they are honourable to him who follows them honourably, dishonourable to him wh…”
Both passages explore the nature of virtuous love and the pursuit of higher ideals. Plato's Symposium discusses the distinction between vulgar and noble love, emphasizing the importance of virtue and the lasting nature of true love. The Fifth Dialogue, discussing Epicurean philosophy, similarly highlights the pursuit of a higher state of being where one is unaffected by worldly pains and pleasures, focusing on the cultivation of virtue and the attainment of blessedness.
platonism|Plato: Symposium|Section 1j
And on the same principle he who gives himself to a lover because he is a good man, and in the hope that he will be improved by his company, shows himself to be virtuous, even though the object of his affection turn out to be a villain, and…”
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The partial becomes complete; the crooked, straight; the empty, full; the worn out, new. He whose (desires) are few gets them; he whose (desires) are many goes astray. Therefore the sage holds in his embrace the one thing (of humility), and…”
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taoism|Tao Te Ching|Chapter 38
(Those who) possessed in highest degree the attributes (of the Tao) did not (seek) to show them, and therefore they possessed them (in fullest measure). (Those who) possessed in a lower degree those attributes (sought how) not to lose them,…”
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The things which from of old have got the One (the Tao) are-- Heaven which by it is bright and pure; Earth rendered thereby firm and sure; Spirits with powers by it supplied; Valleys kept full throughout their void All creatures which throu…”
Both passages discuss the importance of humility and inner strength. The Tao Te Ching emphasizes the root of dignity in meanness and the stability found in lowness, while the Epicurean dialogue highlights the perfection of firmness in not feeling pain or inconvenience, achieved through absorption in virtue.
taoism|Tao Te Ching|Chapter 55
He who has in himself abundantly the attributes (of the Tao) is like an infant. Poisonous insects will not sting him; fierce beasts will not seize him; birds of prey will not strike him. (The infant's) bones are weak and its sinews soft, bu…”
Both passages discuss the ideal state of being, emphasizing a form of strength that is not reactive to external stimuli or pain. The Tao Te Ching describes an infant-like state of harmony and perfection, while the Epicurean dialogue discusses a state of firmness and pleasure that is unaffected by external inconveniences.
taoism|Tao Te Ching|Chapter 76
Man at his birth is supple and weak; at his death, firm and strong. (So it is with) all things. Trees and plants, in their early growth, are soft and brittle; at their death, dry and withered. Thus it is that firmness and strength are the c…”
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taoism|Tao Te Ching|Chapter 77
May not the Way (or Tao) of Heaven be compared to the (method of) bending a bow? The (part of the bow) which was high is brought low, and what was low is raised up. (So Heaven) diminishes where there is superabundance, and supplements where…”
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There is nothing in the world more soft and weak than water, and yet for attacking things that are firm and strong there is nothing that can take precedence of it;--for there is nothing (so effectual) for which it can be changed. Every one…”
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Sincere words are not fine; fine words are not sincere. Those who are skilled (in the Tao) do not dispute (about it); the disputatious are not skilled in it. Those who know (the Tao) are not extensively learned; the extensively learned do n…”
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What I mean when I say that he is without these is, that this man does not by his likings and dislikings do any inward harm to his body;--he always pursues his course without effort, and does not (try to) increase his (store of) life.' Hui-…”
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western_esoteric|Tertium Organum (P.D. Ouspensky)|Chapter XVIII (part 7)
And there are emotions which are unitive , harmonizing, making man feel himself to be a part of some great whole; such are love, sympathy, friendship, compassion, love of country, love of nature, love of humanity. These emotions lead man o…”
Both passages discuss the nature of emotions and their purity, emphasizing the distinction between pure and impure emotions. They explore how certain emotions can elevate and purify the soul, leading to a higher state of being or knowledge.
western_esoteric|Tertium Organum (P.D. Ouspensky)|Chapter XVIII (part 8)
There can be pure sympathy, and there can be sympathy mixed with calculation to receive something for one's sympathy. There can be pure love of knowledge, a thirst for knowledge for its own sake, and there can be an inclination to knowledg…”
Both passages discuss the importance of purity in emotions and actions. Passage A emphasizes the purification of emotions for correct understanding and knowledge, while Passage B highlights the Epicurean ideal of achieving a state where one does not feel pain or inconvenience, focusing entirely on virtue and pleasure.
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One who neglects his moral dignity in order to obey blindly the instincts of Nature. As a fact, in the presence of danger it is natural to be afraid and seek flight: why, then, is it shameful? Because honour has erected it into a law that…”
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western_esoteric|Transcendental Magic II: The Ritual (Éliphas Lévi)|8. Warning To The Imprudentb
The milder and calmer you are, the more effective will be your anger; the more energetic you are, the more valuable will be your forbearance; the more skilful you are, the better will you profit by your intelligence and even by your virtues…”
Both passages discuss the concept of achieving a state of perfection or virtue through the transcendence of physical and emotional suffering. They share the idea that true strength and firmness come from not feeling pain or disturbance, whether through absorption in virtue or through magical and spiritual practices.
western_esoteric|Transcendental Magic II: The Ritual (Éliphas Lévi)|16. Witchcraft And Spellsc
Say to a reasonable man that equilibrium is the law of motion and life, that liberty, which is moral equilibrium, rests upon an eternal and immutable distinction between true and false, between good and bad; tell him that, endowed as he is…”
Both passages discuss the concept of enduring suffering or hardship with a focus on inner strength and virtue. Passage A emphasizes the importance of moral equilibrium and the avoidance of evil, while Passage B discusses the Epicurean idea of perfect firmness and the absence of feeling pain or discomfort. Both texts share the underlying theme of achieving a state of inner peace and strength through virtue and moral conduct.
neoplatonism|Select Works of Plotinus|Select Works, Section 171CONTRASTS
Section 15 15. There is, however, one matter which we must on no account overlook- the effect of these teachings upon the hearers led by them into despising the world and all that is in it. There are two theories as to the attainment of the…”
Both passages discuss the philosophy of Epicurus and the pursuit of pleasure or virtue, but they present opposing views. Passage A criticizes the Epicurean philosophy for despising the world and virtue, while Passage B defends Epicurus' view of pleasure and firmness, arguing that it does not detract from virtue but rather perfects it.