← Home
Tertium Organum (P.D. Ouspensky) · 152 of 225 · tr. Nicholas Bessaraboff and Claude Bragdon

Chapter XIX (part 3)

We all know this, and the only thing we can do is to try not to think about the existence of these problems, to forget about them. We do so as a rule, but this does not annihilate them. They continue to exist, and at any given moment we may turn to them and try on them the rigidity and force of our scientific method . And every time, at such an attempt, we find that our scientific method is not equal to these problems. By its aid we can discover the chemical composition of remote stars; can photograph the skeleton within the human body, invisible to the human eye; can invent a floating mine which can be controlled from a distance by means of electrical waves, and can in this way annihilate in a moment hundreds of lives; but by the aid of this method we cannot tell what the man standing beside us is thinking about. No matter how much we may weigh, sound or photograph a man, we shall never know his thoughts unless he himself tells them to us . BUT THIS IS TRULY QUITE A DIFFERENT METHOD. The sphere of action of the method of exact science is strictly p. 236 limited. This sphere is the world of the immediate experience accessible for man. In the world lying beyond the domain of usual experience exact science with its methods has never penetrated and will never penetrate . The expansion of objective knowledge is possible only in case direct experience is expanded. But in spite of all the growth of objective knowledge science has made not one step in this direction and the border-line of experience remains in the same place . Could science take a single step in this direction, were we able to feel or sense differently, then we might admit that science might move and take two, three, ten, and ten thousand steps. But it has taken not even one , and it is therefore reasonable to believe that it will never take it. The world outside the experience of the five senses is closed to objective investigation, and for this quite definite causes exist. By no means everything that exists can be detected by any of five senses. Objective existence is a very narrowly defined form of existence, and does not by any means exhaust or comprehend existence as a whole. The mistake of positivism consists in the fact that it has recognized as really existing only that which exists objectively, and it has even begun to deny the very existence of all the rest. But what is objectivity? We can define it in this way: because of the properties of our receptivity, or because of the conditions under which our psyche works, we segregate a small number of facts into a definite group. This group of facts represents in itself the objective world, and is accessible to the investigation of science. But in no case does this group represent in itself EVERYTHING THAT IS EXISTING. Extension in space and existence in time constitute the first condition of objective existence. And yet the forms of the extension of a thing in space, and those of its existence in time are created by the cognizing subject, and do not belong to the thing itself. Matter is first of all three-dimensional . This three-dimensionality is the form of our receptivity. Matter of four dimensions would imply a change in the form of our receptivity. Materiality is the condition of existence in space and time, i.e., a condition of existence under which "at one time, and in one place, two similar phenomena cannot occur." This is an exhaustive definition p. 237 of materiality. It is clear that under the conditions known to us, two similar phenomena, occurring simultaneously in one place, will compose one phenomenon. But this is obligatory for those conditions of existence which we know, i.e., for such matter as we perceive. For the universe it is absolutely not obligatory.
Themes
Gnosis Direct Knowledgesoteriology

Salvation through direct experiential knowledge of the divine nature, not through faith, ritual, or moral works alone.

It emphasizes that expanded direct experience is the only means to acquire knowledge beyond the limitations of scientific method.

All passages →
Infinite Cosmoscosmology

The doctrine of the universe as boundless and without center or circumference, populated by innumerable worlds — Bruno's rejection of the closed Aristotelian sphere; the divine and the cosmos as ontologically infinite.

The text suggests the universe is not bound by the three-dimensional conditions of matter perceived by humans.

All passages →
Mechanical Humanityanthropology

Gurdjieff and Ouspensky's claim that ordinary human beings live in a state of waking sleep, reacting mechanically without unified will or consciousness, and that the spiritual path begins with recognising this condition.

The text describes the habitual human tendency to avoid deep problems and the fixed conditions of human receptivity.

All passages →
Unity Of Beingtheology

The doctrine that all existence is ultimately one substance or one divine reality; non-duality as a theological claim.

The passage distinguishes between limited objective existence and 'existence as a whole,' implying a broader unified reality.

All passages →
Body As Obstacleanthropology

The material body viewed as a prison, tomb, or source of error that hinders spiritual knowledge and return.

[auto] The passage argues that human receptivity and the five senses limit knowledge, preventing access to existence beyond objective experience.

All passages →
Cosmic Dualismtheology

Ontological opposition between two primal principles (light/darkness, truth/lie, spirit/matter) as the fundamental structure of reality.

[auto] The text establishes an ontological distinction between narrow objective existence and the totality of existence as a whole.

All passages →
Related passages · 6 parallels
christian_mysticism|Pseudo-Dionysius: The Divine Names|Chapter 7, Section 1d
Furthermore, we must ask how it is that we know God when He cannot be perceived by the mind or the senses and is not a particular Being. Perhaps ‘tis true to say that we know not God by His Nature (for this is unknowable and beyond the rea…”
Both passages explore the limitations of human perception and knowledge. Passage A discusses the constraints of scientific methods in understanding certain aspects of reality, while Passage B delves into the unknowable nature of God and the limitations of human reason and intuition in comprehending the divine.
neoplatonism|Select Works of Plotinus|Select Works, Section 279
Section 2 2.... For in any one science the reduction of the total of knowledge into its separate propositions does not shatter its unity, chipping it into unrelated fragments; in each distinct item is talent the entire body of the science,…”
Both passages explore the limitations of human perception and knowledge. Passage A discusses the constraints of scientific methods and objective reality, while Passage B delves into the nature of the soul and its connection to higher existence, both touching on the theme of the limitations of human understanding and the existence of realms beyond ordinary experience.
neoplatonism|Select Works of Plotinus|Select Works, Section 330
Section 10 10. The ordering principle is twofold; there is the principle known to us as the Demiurge and there is the Soul of the All; we apply the appellation "Zeus" sometimes to the Demiurge and sometimes to the principle conducting the u…”
Both passages discuss the limitations of human perception and the inability of conventional methods to fully comprehend reality. They explore the idea that there are aspects of existence beyond the reach of ordinary experience and scientific investigation.
neoplatonism|Select Works of Plotinus|Select Works, Section 558
Section 20 20. We may thus distinguish two phases of Intellect, in one of which it may be taken as having no contact whatever with particulars and no Act upon anything; thus it is kept apart from being a particular intellect. In the same wa…”
Both passages discuss the limitations of human perception and knowledge. Passage A from Ouspensky's 'Tertium Organum' highlights the constraints of the scientific method in understanding certain aspects of reality, particularly those beyond the five senses. Passage B from 'Select Works' explores the relationship between universal intellect and particular intellects, emphasizing the potentiality and actuality of knowledge. Both texts delve into the nature of existence and the boundaries of human understanding, albeit from different philosophical and mystical perspectives.
neoplatonism|Select Works of Plotinus|Select Works, Section 566
Section 5 5. These are incontrovertible facts in regard to the pseudo-substance of the Sensible realm: if they apply also in some degree to the True Substance of the Intellectual, the coincidence is, doubtless, to be attributed to analogy a…”
Both passages discuss the limitations of human perception and knowledge. Passage A from Ouspensky's 'Tertium Organum' explores the constraints of scientific methods in understanding the broader aspects of existence beyond the five senses. Passage B from 'Select Works' delves into the nature of Intellect and its relationship with particulars, highlighting the potential and actual existence of knowledge. Both texts emphasize the existence of realms beyond immediate experience or perception.
renaissance_hermeticism|The Heroic Enthusiasts, Part II (Gli Eroici Furori)|Second Dialoguee
Now, it must be said that the outcome of the mind is that alone which is always by it desired, sought for, and embraced, and that which is more enjoyed than anything else, with which it is filled, comforted and becomes better,—that is Truth…”
Both passages discuss the limitations of conventional methods of understanding and knowledge. Passage A focuses on the limitations of scientific methods in comprehending certain aspects of reality, while Passage B emphasizes the need to rise above corporeal reasoning to seek truth. Both highlight the inadequacy of ordinary perception and methods in grasping deeper realities.