Tertium Organum (P.D. Ouspensky) · 17 of 225 · tr. Nicholas Bessaraboff and Claude Bragdon
Chapter I (part 6)
Or, as a logical conclusion from Kant's ideas, shall we recognize the validity of Berkeley's idea, and deny the existence of the world itself except in imagination?
______ Positive philosophy stands in a very ambiguous relation to Kant's views.
It accepts them and it does not accept them: it accepts, p.
20 and considers them correct in their relation to the direct experience of the organs of sense—what we see, hear, touch.
That is, positive philosophy recognizes the subjectivity of our receptivity, and recognizes everything that we perceive in objects as imposed upon them by ourselves—but this in relation to the direct experience of the senses only.
When it concerns itself with "scientific experience" however, in which precise instruments and calculations are used, positive philosophy evidently considers Kant's view in relation to that invalid, assuming that "scientific experience" makes known to us the very substance of things, the true causes of our sensations—or if it does not do so now, it brings us closer to the truth of things, and can inform us later.
Contrary to Kant, the positivists are sure that "more clear knowledge of phenomena makes them acquainted with things in themselves." They think that in looking upon physical phenomena as the motions of the ether, or as electrical or magnetic phenomena, and calculating their motions, they begin to know the very substance of things, i.e., the causes of phenomena; in other words, they believe exactly in the possibility of what Kant denied—the comprehension of the true substance of things by means of the investigation of phenomena.
Moreover many physicists do not consider it necessary even to know Kant; and they could not themselves exactly define in what relation they stand toward him.
Of course it is possible not to know Kant, but it is impossible to controvert him.
Every description of physical phenomena, by its every word, is related to the problems set forth by Kant—remains in this or that relation to them.
In general, the position of "science" in regard to this question of " subjectively imposed " or " objectively cognized " is more than tottering, and in order to form its conclusions "science" is forced to accept many purely hypothetical suppositions as things known—as indubitable data , not demanding proof.
Moreover, physicists forget one very significant fact: in his book, Analysis of Sensations , Mach says: In the investigation of purely physical processes we generally employ concepts of so abstract a character that as a rule we think only cursorily, or not at all, of the sensations (elements) that lie at their base.
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21 [paragraph continues] The foundation of all purely physical operations is based upon an almost unending series of sensations, particularly if we take into consideration the adjustment of the apparatus which must precede the actual experiment.
Now it can easily happen to the physicist who does not study the psychology of his operations, that he does not (to reverse a well-known saying) see the trees for the wood, that he overlooks the sensory element at the foundation of his work.
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Psychological analysis has taught us that this is not surprising, since the physicist is always operating with sensations.
1 Mach here calls attention to a very important thing.
Physicists de not consider it necessary to know psychology and to deal with it in their conclusions.
But when they are more or less acquainted with psychology, with that part of it which treats of the forms of receptivity, and take it into consideration, then they hold the most fantastic duality of opinion, as in the case of the man of orthodox belief who tries to reconcile the dogmas of faith with the arguments of reason, and who is obliged to believe simultaneously in the creation of the world in seven days, seven thousand years ago, and in geological periods hundreds of thousands of years long, and in the evolutionary theory.
He is thus forced to resort to sophisms, and demonstrate that by seven days is meant seven periods .
Themes
◆Mechanical Humanityanthropology
Gurdjieff and Ouspensky's claim that ordinary human beings live in a state of waking sleep, reacting mechanically without unified will or consciousness, and that the spiritual path begins with recognising this condition.
The passage describes physicists operating without awareness of the psychological and sensory foundations of their work, illustrating the concept of unconscious mechanical operation defined by Ouspensky.
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◆neoplatonism|Select Works of Plotinus|Select Works, Section 374
“Section 8 8. Imagine that beyond the heavenly system there existed some solid mass, and that from this sphere there was directed to it a vision utterly unimpeded and unrestricted: it is a question whether that solid form could be perceived…”
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◆neoplatonism|Select Works of Plotinus|Select Works, Section 378 (part 1)
“Section 3 3.
With this prologue we come to our discussion of Memory.
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◆neoplatonism|Select Works of Plotinus|Select Works, Section 535
“Section 28 28. Many as are the objections to this theory, we pass on for fear of the ridicule we might incur by arguing against a position itself so manifestly ridiculous. We may be content with pointing out that it assigns the primacy to t…”
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◆neoplatonism|Select Works of Plotinus|Select Works, Section 543
“Section 5 5. A first point demanding consideration: Bodies- those, for example, of animals and plants- are each a multiplicity founded on colour and shape and magnitude, and on the forms and arrangement of parts: yet all these elements spri…”
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◆platonism|Plato: Republic|Section 1m
“This, however, is not a theme to be treated of in passing only, but will have to be discussed again and again.
And so, whether our conclusion be true or false, let us assume all this, and proceed at once from the prelude or preamble to the…”
Both passages discuss the limitations and assumptions of human knowledge and perception. Passage A examines the subjectivity of sensory experience and the ambiguity of scientific knowledge, while Passage B explores the hierarchy of knowledge and the role of dialectic in understanding true reality. Both texts grapple with the nature of reality and the methods by which we can approach it.
◆platonism|Plato: Republic|Section 1n
“And you would say the same of the conception of the good?
Until the person is able to abstract and define rationally the idea of good, and unless he can run the gauntlet of all objections, and is ready to disprove them, not by appeals to o…”
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