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Section 11 11. Passing to Quantity and the quantum, we have to consider the view which identifies them with number and magnitude on the ground that everything quantitative is numbered among Sensible things or rated by the extension of its substrate: we are here, of course, discussing not Quantity in isolation, but that which causes a piece of wood to be three yards long and gives the five in "five horses," Now we have often maintained that number and magnitude are to be regarded as the only true quantities, and that Space and Time have no right to be conceived as quantitative: Time as the measure of Motion should be assigned to Relation, while Space, being that which circumscribes Body, is also a relative and falls under the same category; though continuous, it is, like Motion, not included in Quantity. On the other hand, why do we not find in the category of Quantity "great" and "small"? It is some kind of Quantity which gives greatness to the great; greatness is not a relative, though greater and smaller are relatives, since these, like doubleness, imply an external correlative. What is it, then, which makes a mountain small and a grain of millet large? Surely, in the first place, "small" is equivalent to "smaller." It is admitted that the term is applied only to things of the same kind, and from this admission we may infer that the mountain is "smaller" rather than "small," and that the grain of millet is not large in any absolute sense but large for a grain of millet. In other words, since the comparison is between things of the same kind, the natural predicate would be a comparative. Again, why is not beauty classed as a relative? Beauty, unlike greatness, we regard as absolute and as a quality; "more beautiful" is the relative. Yet even the term "beautiful" may be attached to something which in a given relation may appear ugly: the beauty of man, for example, is ugliness when compared with that of the gods; "the most beautiful of monkeys," we may quote, "is ugly in comparison with any other type." Nonetheless, a thing is beautiful in itself; as related to something else it is either more or less beautiful. Similarly, an object is great in itself, and its greatness is due, not to any external, but to its own participation in the Absolute Great. Are we actually to eliminate the beautiful on the pretext that there is a more beautiful? No more then must we eliminate the great because of the greater: the greater can obviously have no existence whatever apart from the great, just as the more beautiful can have no existence without the beautiful.
Themes
Unity Of Beingtheology

The doctrine that all existence is ultimately one substance or one divine reality; non-duality as a theological claim.

The author discusses evolving a unity from the identity appearing in many instances within the sensible realm.

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Cosmic Dualismtheology

Ontological opposition between two primal principles (light/darkness, truth/lie, spirit/matter) as the fundamental structure of reality.

[auto] The text explicitly contrasts Reality (True Being) with the opposed principle of Becoming as fundamental categories for investigation.

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Emanation Hierarchycosmology

A chain of divine beings or principles flowing downward from a single transcendent source (the One or the Father), each level less perfect than the one above.

[auto] The passage distinguishes between the Intellectual sphere and the lower Sensible realm, implying a hierarchical structure of reality.

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Related passages · 5 parallels
hermeticism|Corpus Hermeticum 4: The Epistles|Section 1c
It is Itself Its Source, since It may have no other Source. The Oneness then being Source, containeth every number, but is contained by none; engendereth every number, but is engendered by no other one. 11. Now all that is engendered is…”
Both passages explore the nature of the Absolute or the One, discussing its relationship to other entities and qualities. Plotinus examines the nature of quantity and quality, while the second passage discusses the Oneness as the source and root of all things, highlighting the imperfection of engendered entities.
platonism|Plato: Phaedo|Section 1
The reason why I say this is that I want you to agree with me in thinking, not only that absolute greatness will never be great and also small, but that greatness in us or in the concrete will never admit the small or admit of being exceede…”
Both passages explore the nature of absolute qualities (such as greatness and beauty) versus relative ones. They discuss how absolute qualities do not admit their opposites and how relative comparisons are made within the same kind. The philosophical inquiry into the nature of opposites and their inherent qualities is a genuine conceptual parallel.
taoism|The Writings of Chuang Tzu (Inner Chapters)|Book 124 (part 9)
The harmonising of them is to be found in the invisible operation of Heaven, and by following this on into the unlimited past. It is by this method that we can complete our years (without our minds being disturbed) 1 . 'What is meant by h…”
Both passages explore the nature of reality and the distinction between different realms of existence. Plotinus discusses the Intellectual and Sensible realms, while Zhuangzi (Book 124) delves into the transformation and interconnection of things, highlighting the fluidity of existence and the challenge of distinguishing reality from illusion.
western_esoteric|Tertium Organum (P.D. Ouspensky)|Chapter XX (part 3)
Mathematics, or the science of magnitudes, is that system which studies the quantitative relations between things; logic, or the science of concepts, is that system which studies the qualitative (categorical) relations between things. Logi…”
Both passages discuss the nature of quantity and its relationship to other concepts. Plotinus explores the distinction between absolute and relative quantities, while the second passage discusses the foundations of mathematics and logic, highlighting their similarities and limitations. Both delve into the philosophical underpinnings of their respective subjects, showing a conceptual parallel in their exploration of fundamental principles.
western_esoteric|Tertium Organum (P.D. Ouspensky)|Chapter XXI (part 5)
Penetrating there, it first of all renounces its fundamental axioms of identity and difference. In the world of infinite and fluent magnitudes, a magnitude may be not equal to itself; a part may be equal to the whole; and of two equal magn…”
Both passages discuss the nature of quantity, magnitude, and the limitations of conventional logic and mathematics. Passage A explores the absolute versus relative nature of quantities, while Passage B delves into the higher logic of infinity and ecstasy, both touching on the transcendence of traditional logical frameworks.