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Select Works, Section 96 (part 1)

Section 6 6. We may now consider the question whether fire is the sole element existing in that celestial realm and whether there is any outgoing thence with the consequent need of renewal. Timaeus pronounced the material frame of the All to consist primarily of earth and fire for visibility, earth for solidity- and deduced that the stars must be mainly composed of fire, but not solely since there is no doubt they are solid. And this is probably a true account. Plato accepts it as indicated by all the appearances. And, in fact, to all our perception- as we see them and derive from them the impression of illumination- the stars appear to be mostly, if not exclusively, fire: but on reasoning into the matter we judge that since solidity cannot exist apart from earth-matter, they must contain earth as well. But what place could there be for the other elements? It is impossible to imagine water amid so vast a conflagration; and if air were present it would be continually changing into fire. Admitting [with Timaeus; as a logical truth] that two self-contained entities, standing as extremes to each other need for their coherence two intermediaries; we may still question whether this holds good with regard to physical bodies. Certainly water and earth can be mixed without any such intermediate. It might seem valid to object that the intermediates are already present in the earth and the water; but a possible answer would be, "Yes, but not as agents whose meeting is necessary to the coherence of those extremes." None the less we will take it that the coherence of extremes is produced by virtue of each possessing all the intermediates. It is still not proven that fire is necessary to the visibility of earth and earth to the solidarity of fire. On this principle, nothing possesses an essential-nature of its very own; every several thing is a blend, and its name is merely an indication of the dominant constituent. Thus we are told that earth cannot have concrete existence without the help of some moist element- the moisture in water being the necessary adhesive- but admitting that we so find it, there is still a contradiction in pretending that any one element has a being of its own and in the same breath denying its self-coherence, making its subsistence depend upon others, and so, in reality, reducing the specific element to nothing. How can we talk of the existence of the definite Kind, earth- earth essential- if there exists no single particle of earth which actually is earth without any need of water to secure its self-cohesion? What has such an adhesive to act upon if there is absolutely no given magnitude of real earth to which it may bind particle after particle in its business of producing the continuous mass? If there is any such given magnitude, large or small, of pure earth, then earth can exist in its own nature, independently of water: if there is no such primary particle of pure earth, then there is nothing whatever for the water to bind. As for air- air unchanged, retaining its distinctive quality- how could it conduce to the subsistence of a dense material like earth? Similarly with fire. No doubt Timaeus speaks of it as necessary not to the existence but to the visibility of earth and the other elements; and certainly light is essential to all visibility- we cannot say that we see darkness, which implies, precisely, that nothing is seen, as silence means nothing being heard. But all this does not assure us that the earth to be visible must contain fire: light is sufficient: snow, for example, and other extremely cold substances gleam without the presence of fire- though of course it might be said that fire was once there and communicated colour before disappearing. As to the composition of water, we must leave it an open question whether there can be such a thing as water without a certain proportion of earth. But how can air, the yielding element, contain earth?
Themes
Divine Sparkscosmology

Fragments of divine light or spirit trapped inside material bodies, awaiting liberation and return to their source.

Human souls are identified as springing directly from the Creator, distinguishing them from the lower animal life produced by an image.

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Logoscosmology

The divine reason, word, or ordering principle through which the universe was created; mediates between the transcendent God and the material world.

The concept of celestial order and law functions as a mediating principle governing the creation and endurance of beings.

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Body As Obstacleanthropology

The material body viewed as a prison, tomb, or source of error that hinders spiritual knowledge and return.

[auto] Material constituents are described as repugnant to duration and lacking the strength to endure compared to divine substances.

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Cosmic Dualismtheology

Ontological opposition between two primal principles (light/darkness, truth/lie, spirit/matter) as the fundamental structure of reality.

[auto] The text contrasts the permanent celestial order with the transient and inferior material realm of earthly living things.

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Emanation Hierarchycosmology

A chain of divine beings or principles flowing downward from a single transcendent source (the One or the Father), each level less perfect than the one above.

[auto] The passage explicitly outlines a descending chain of being from God to gods, then to celestial soul, and finally to earthly animal life.

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Monadcosmology

The absolutely simple, undivided first principle from which all multiplicity and existence flows.

[auto] A singular Creator is identified as the ultimate source from which all subsequent levels of existence spring.

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Related passages · 9 parallels
christian_mysticism|The Life and Doctrines of Jacob Boehme|Chapter 6 (part 7)
That which Sol (the sun) is spiritually becomes corporeal in Luna (the moon)." ( Signature , ix. 24.) After the world of stars had begun to exist, the sidereal life appeared by the power of the former—that is to say, that living organisms…”
Both passages discuss the hierarchical structure of creation and the relationship between celestial and earthly beings. They share the idea that higher realms influence lower ones, and that earthly life is derived from celestial principles, though they use different metaphors and frameworks.
christian_mysticism|The Life and Doctrines of Jacob Boehme|Chapter 8 (part 5)
Thus the earth is filled with hunger after the stars and after the spiritus mundi , so that they have no peace." ( Clavis , 110.) "The earth is turning around because she has both fires, the hot and the cold fire, and that which is below al…”
Both passages discuss the nature and relationship of the elements, exploring the idea of a fundamental unity behind the apparent diversity of elements. They both delve into the interplay and interactions between different elemental qualities, though from different mystical traditions.
christian_mysticism|The Life and Doctrines of Jacob Boehme|Chapter 8 (part 6)
1.) "The terrestrial consciousness corrupted the celestial one, and the former became the Turba of the latter. Likewise, the Fiat made the earth and stones out of the eternal essentiality." ( Menschwerdung , i. 9.) "But in the earth we fi…”
Both passages discuss the relationship between celestial and terrestrial realms, and the nature of souls or essences within these realms. They explore the idea of higher and lower principles influencing the permanence and quality of existence, though they use different metaphors and frameworks.
platonism|Plato: Timaeus|Section 1t
To which end we must consider the nature of fire, and water, and air, and earth, such as they were prior to the creation of the heaven, and what was happening to them in this previous state; for no one has as yet explained the manner of the…”
Both passages explore the nature and composition of the fundamental elements (fire, water, air, earth) and their interrelationships. They share a philosophical inquiry into the essence and coexistence of these elements, though from different philosophical traditions.
platonism|Plato: Timaeus|Section 1y
He, however, who raises the question whether they are to be truly regarded as one or five, takes up a more reasonable position. Arguing from probabilities, I am of opinion that they are one; another, regarding the question from another poi…”
Both passages discuss the nature and composition of the elements, particularly focusing on fire, earth, air, and water. They explore the relationships and transformations between these elements, though from different philosophical and mystical perspectives.
platonism|Plato: Timaeus|Section 1{
There are, for example, first, flame; and secondly, those emanations of flame which do not burn but only give light to the eyes; thirdly, the remains of fire, which are seen in red-hot embers after the flame has been extinguished. There ar…”
Both passages explore the nature and composition of elements, particularly fire and earth, and discuss their interactions and necessary conditions for existence. They share a philosophical inquiry into the fundamental constituents of the physical world.
platonism|Plato: Timaeus|Section 1|
Water which is mingled with fire, so much as is fine and liquid (being so called by reason of its motion and the way in which it rolls along the ground), and soft, because its bases give way are less stable than those of earth, when separat…”
Both passages explore the nature and composition of elements, particularly focusing on the interplay between fire, water, earth, and air. They share a philosophical inquiry into the essential nature of these elements and their interactions, though from different traditions.
platonism|Plato: Timaeus|Section 1}
Wherefore earth when not consolidated by force is dissolved by water only; when consolidated, by nothing but fire; for this is the only body which can find an entrance. The cohesion of water again, when very strong, is dissolved by fire on…”
Both passages explore the nature and interactions of the classical elements (earth, water, air, fire) and their properties. They discuss the composition and behavior of these elements in different contexts, showing a conceptual parallel in their examination of elemental theory.
taoism|Tao Te Ching|Chapter 7
Heaven is long-enduring and earth continues long. The reason why heaven and earth are able to endure and continue thus long is because they do not live of, or for, themselves. This is how they are able to continue and endure. Therefore the…”
Both passages discuss the concept of endurance and permanence, attributing it to a lack of self-interest or personal ends. They both highlight the idea that higher entities (heaven, celestial order) endure because they do not act for themselves, and this is contrasted with the transient nature of lower entities (earth, living things of this realm).